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<pscheuer@texas.net>From: "aida zorrilla & paul scheuer"
<pscheuer@texas.net>To: "Gideon Ariel"
<ariel1@ix13.ix.netcom.com>Subject: Re: To: Ken PlattDate: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 18:19:52
-0600X-MSMail-Priority: NormalX-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3I've been using the system for 2 years already and would like
to purchase my own, but would like to have it on a zip disk. What would the cost be? Re: To: Ken Platt Subject:
Thursday, November 19, 1998 8:24 AM Date:
To: Paul Scheuer <pscheuer@texas.net> Gideon Ariel <ariel1@ix13.ix.netcom.com>-----Original Message-----
From: You can download the APAS from the net at <
HI Paul:
/>/
Ken, Could you please tell me the cost of an APAS system of Zip Disk? No cameras, no
VCR, just the older Windows version (the one loaded on Emilie's desk top, differing from
the APAS light versions that coordinate with a force plate). Thank you, Paul Scheuer
At 07:27 AM 11/19/98 -0600, you wrote: >>>>
Gideon Ariel
for free and try it.
Hello Steve Bailey,
Thank you for your interest in the Ariel technology. Unfortunately, there
is no margin in our prices to spend $3,000.00 for an on-site demonstration.
Our prices are low because we sell directly from our main company. We do
not have to pay the salaries of the "middle-man" and area sales
representatives. I would like to make the following recommendations to
help eliminate any uncertanties.
First, you should compare all available systems for features and price. I
fully understand having reservations on purchasing a system because I was
once in the same situation. I worked in the Anthropometry and Biomechanics
Lab at the Johnson Space Center and was tasked with purchasing a movement
analysis system. I checked all the commercially available systems by
personally visiting each company. There was no comparison between the APAS
and other systems! I purchased a single APAS and was so pleased with the
results that 4 more systems were purchased at a later date. Please do not
take my word for this. I encourage you to fully examine all available
systems and compare them feature-by-feature.
I also want to refer you to a 3rd party independent study performed by Dr.
James G. Richards at the University of Deleware. Dr. Richards was the
keynote speaker at the Fifth International Symposioum On The 3-D Analysis
Of Human Motion, July 2-6, 1998 in Chattanooga, TN. His presentation was a
comparison of the commercially available systems for movement analysis. I
have provided a direct link to his presentation below:
/Topics/comparison/default.htm
Make certain that you review the full report by scrolling down to the
bottom and selecting the NEXT button for additional pages.
As a second option, you can download the software directly from the Ariel
internet site (/) and evaluate it for
30 days prior to
purchasing. No other system in the world will let you do this! You can
find on-line manuals and tutorials for detailed explainations on the APAS
system operation.
Manuals: /Main/adw-91.html
Tutorials: /topics/Tutorials/default.htm
Contact existing Ariel customers as a third option. I know that you have
already visited Dr. Brian Bergemann at Campbell University. He purchased
the APAS and CES systems at the United States Sport Academy (as well as the
APAS at Campbell University) and used them extensivley for sport analysis.
Other contacts that have multiple APAS systems:
Erik B. Simonsen, Ph.D.
University of Copenhagen, Denmark
Email: E.Simonsen@mai.ku.dk
Alfred Finch, Ph.D.
Indiana State University
Email: pmfinch@scifac.indstate.edu
Mike Greenisen, Ph.D.
NASA, Johnson Space Center
Email: michael.c.greenisen1@jsc.nasa.gov
Sun G. Chung, M.D., Ph.D.
Seoul National University
Email: suncg@medicine.snu.ac.kr
Pierre Gervais, Ph.D.
University of Alberta, Canada
Email: pgervais@per.ualberta.ca
Lastly, we would be happy to provide an APAS demonstration at the Ariel
office in San Diego, California. If you are interested in this option,
please contact us so we can make arrangements for a convenient time.
I hope this provides additional information and several options to help
eliminate any doubts about purchasing the Ariel system. Please feel free
to contact me for any additional questions. I would be happy to help.
I look forward to your reply!
Sincerely,
John Probe
Ariel Dynamics, Inc.
4891 Ronson Court
Suite F
San Diego, CA 92111-1815
Tel: (858) 874-2547
Fax: (858) 874-2549
Email: info@arieldynamics.com
At 04:46 PM 6/10/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Dr. Mr. Probe,
>
>I am the research coordinator in the Department of Physical Therapy
>Education of Elon College in Elon College, NC. We have been
>communicating with various Ariel employees and have visited the lab at
>Campbell University. At this time it is very likely we will purchase an
>Ariel system for motion analysis. This would include the following:
>
>1. Software and license for 2 computers
$5500
>2. High precision calibration cube
$1500
>3. Reflective markers (30/order) X 2
$600
>4. 3 Industrial light cameras
$900
>5. Time code read/write
$1500
>6. Intreface to forceplate and EMG
$1500
>
>Total
>$11,500
>
>We also expect to purchase from a local company 1 Super VHS recorder
>($3100), 2 SVHS cameras ($1800 each), and gem locks. In the future we
>hope to purchase up to 4 High speed cameras (120-240 Hz); however, we
>are presently financially limted to the SVHS cameras.
>
>While we are 90% sure that purchasing an Ariel system is right for us,
>our biomechanist (Sue Chinworth) still has some reservations.
>Consequently, I am writing you to see if you consider the following.
>Will you allow somebody from your company to come to our institution,
>set up and demonstrate the system to us prior to purchase ? If you are
>willing to do so, I believe that I can guarrentee that the individual
>visiting us will walk away with a completed P.O. if we are satisfied. If
>this process is not acceptable to you could you suggest a way that Sue
>C. can get some in depth experience with the system from someone who
>knows it inside and out prior to purchase. Also, if you think we can
>purchase those extra items through you more economically please let me
>know.
>
>Thank you for your time and consideration in this matter. I look forward
>to hearing from you.
>
>Stephen Bailey, PT, Ph.D.
>
>
Hello Susan,
Ariel Dynamics is curently using the JVC digital camcorders.
These cameras
have many advantages since they are battery operated and also support
high
speed video analysis. These cameras do have an S-Video (analog)
output
that can be used with your current configuration only for 60 Hz
analysis.
However, it is recommended to use the associated digital video
hardware.
This includes the Digital Video (DV) capture card, DV cameras and
Ariel
Software drivers.
The Digital Video capture card & software sells for $450
The JVC camera and software drivers for 60 & 120 Hz analysis sells
for
$3,500 per camera.
The JVC camera and software drivers for 60/120 & 240 Hz analysis
sells for
$5,000 per camera.
The Ariel software drivers are required to extract the high speed data
from
the recorded images and is included in the prices listed above.
Please contact us for any additional information.
Sincerely,
John Probe
Email: info@arieldynamics.com
At 05:16 PM 05/09/2000 -0400, you wrote:
>We presently have the Panasonic 60 Hz cameras. We are
investigating the
>digital cameras that are mentioned on the website. One thing is
>unclear...is additional software necessary to integrate the
cameras with
>APAS? If so, is the software included in the price of the cameras
(or at
>what cost)?
>
>Thank you.
>
>Susan A. Chinworth, PhD, PT
>Elon College Dept of PT Education
>2085 CB
>Elon College, NC 27244
>336-538-6861
>chinwort@elon.edu
>
>
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Ariel Dynamics, Inc.
4891 Ronson Court
Suite F
San Diego, California 92111 USA
(858) 874-2547 Tel
(858) 874-2549 Fax
Email: info@arieldynamics.com
Web Site: /
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Hello Gareth,
Thank you for your interest in the Ariel Performance Analysis System (APAS).
The APAS is a 3D video-based movement analysis system which accurately
quantifies function and provides objective data the professional may use
to
justify or evaluate treatment. Areas of successful application for
the APAS
include human performance, injury and rehabilitation assessment,
quantification of loss for compensation claims, equipment and product
testing and development, determination of potential or actual risks for
products and activities in liability litigation, as well as applied
research
in the areas of orthopedic medicine, therapeutics, and physical training.
The APAS integrates state-of-the-art computer and video processing
hardware
with specialized software modules that perform data collection, analysis,
and presentation. Objective quantifiable documentation is provided
for both
2-Dimensional and 3-Dimensional analysis. Specific points of
interest can
be digitized with user intervention or automatically using contrasting
markers. Stick figures are then generated and can be synchronized
with
kinematics data. Additionally, up to 32 channels of analog data
(i.e. force
platform, EMG, goniometers etc.) can be synchronized with the kinematics
data.
The APAS product information can be found on the Ariel internet site
(/). The direct
address to several areas that might be of
interest are listed below.
APAS Product Information
/Main/adw-04.html
Comparison of Commercially Available Systems
/topics/comparison/default.htm
Selected Applications Of APAS
/Main/adw-85.html
Selected Publications Utilizing the Ariel Technology
/Main/adw-86.html
You can even download a full version of the APAS for a FREE 30 day trial.
Please review the information and feel free to contact us for any
additional
questions.
Sincerely,
John Probe
Ariel Dynamics, Inc.
Email: info@arieldynamics.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Irwin, Gareth" <GIrwin@UWIC.AC.UK>
To: <BIOMCH-L@NIC.SURFNET.NL>
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 7:05 AM
Dear All
I am looking to purchase a motion analysis system, for the application of
sports biomechanics with a limited Budget. My lab already has a manual
system (TARGET), if anybody is aware of any deals that may allow me to
purchase a automated or semi automated system please email me. The budget
I
am talking about is in the region of $78,000(US) or 60,000(UK)
Kindest Regards
Gareth
__________________________________________________
Gareth Irwin
Head of Biomechanics
Senior Lecturer
School of Sport, PE and Recreation
University of Wales Institute, Cardiff
Cyncoed Campus
Cyncoed Road
Cardiff
CF23 6XD
email: girwin@uwic.ac.uk
tel: 029 2041 6649
fax: 029 2041 6589
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